Methods of fajin training

Methods of fajin training

Postby Lao Tse » Sat Jul 05, 2014 2:02 am

Hello everyone,

Recently I've been discussing methods of fajin training with practitioners of other styles (primarily Wu and Chen). There are some interesting similarities, as well as some notable differences.

I'm aware the Association advocates for single movement fajin practice, as well as "shivering staff" exercises.

Do your training regimens also include the insertion of fajin into the traditional long form? Do you practice distinct forms for this purpose?
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Re: Methods of fajin training

Postby UniTaichi » Sat Jul 05, 2014 3:57 am

Hi Lao Tse,

Perhaps you can start by telling us what is the differences between Wu and Chen andalso the Yang stlye you are learning. I am more interested in the method than fajin in the form practice.

Cheers,
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Re: Methods of fajin training

Postby mls_72 » Fri Aug 08, 2014 5:19 pm

The methods of fajin training I have done in the Yang style were the same coming from my experiences with Fu Zhong Wen folks and Zhou Bin folks.

they both did these Linear fajin:
http://youtu.be/zzhx2v6gH3M

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other fajin and fast form info:

Chen Wei ming wrote in his book about a fajin fast "long boxing set" and the Tung family do one as well.
http://brennantranslation.wordpress.com ... iji-sword/

Fu zhong wen's fast form:
http://youtu.be/vB5HQrD9-Aw

Tung Family fast form:
http://youtu.be/9jJ0eTawWzU
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Re: Methods of fajin training

Postby Audi » Sun Aug 10, 2014 8:49 pm

We also practice Fajin out of a more or less fixed stance, without stepping. We also use two-person exercises to practice Fajin with various body parts. I would also say that I sometimes concentrate on aspects of Fajin during push hands application practice, both as a student and as a teacher.

I do not add explosive movements to my form, but do occasionally concentrate on aspects of Fajin during my form practice, such as how the transfer of energy matches how I reach the "settling point" of each posture.
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Re: Methods of fajin training

Postby T » Wed Aug 13, 2014 6:14 pm

From Tung Ying Chieh there is both stationary and movement training of Fajin. It is found in his 2 fast forms.

mls_72 wrote:Tung Family fast form:
http://youtu.be/9jJ0eTawWzU


That is Tung Ying Chieh second fast form and it is a combination of Yang and Wu(Hao) style. Also it is being modified by Tung Hu Ling due the space he has to do the form so it looks a bit different in a bigger space. However do not get me wrong, Tung Hu Ling was highly skilled and I am in no way questioning his ability or what he is doing. The fact that he was able to modify it so easily is rather impressive to me

And since Chen Fajin was mentioned and for discussion purposes

Chen Xiaowang (19th Generation Chen and current head of Chen family Taijiquan)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj6UaEay5Lg

Chan Yu (19th generation Chen, grandson of Chen Fake)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_vcWq2GYXs

WARNING, turn down the volume, I have no idea who posted this but the soundtrack they added is horrendous and I wish they had just left in what he as saying

Chen Zhenglei (19th Generation Chen and where any of my small bit of Chen training originates either directly or through a student and a grand student)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KS_VZm4QWs
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