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push hand forms

PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 6:11 pm
by beginner
there are how many steps in push hand? e.g. 24 forms in tai chi/ 103 form tai chi.

Re: push hand forms

PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:12 am
by Mike Lucero
We don't have a push hands "form". We practice a variety of circles and applications, but then it's free form.

There is a two-person "form" but it's not part of Yang Family tai chi chuan.


Re: push hand forms

PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:45 am
by Audi
The two-person form practiced by some branches of Yang Style is usually called Sanshou ("sparring"? in Chinese), but that term also refers to a sport-form of martial arts popular in China. The form I have seen can be viewed here and here and has 88 postures with an A and B side.

My understanding is that this form was invented by certain students of Yang Chengfu, but is not taught by the Yang family itself.

As Michael, touched on, the family teaches various circling patterns that typically include two to four energy techniques in a repeating sequence. There are ways to transition between patterns, combine them with various stepping patterns, and use variations to move pretty much however you want without disrupting the flow with your partner. After you have some mastery of the patterns, you can practice applications of the energies, applications from the bare-hand form, counters, and counters to the counters, etc. You can also just circle and/or step in free-form spontaneous manner.

Re: push hand forms

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:22 am
by ChiDragon
beginner wrote:there are how many steps in push hand? e.g. 24 forms in tai chi/ 103 form tai chi.

Learning push hand is not for anyone to start from the cold. The prerequisite is to practice the basic movements at least three to five years until the jin is developed in the body muscles. Especially, it would be more effective if the abdominal breathing was improved drastically during the basic practice.

Push hand has eight techniques. They are as follows:
1. 掤(Peng): Issue Jin with a lower arm by pushing upward and outward
2. 履(Lu): Issuet Jin with the palms against a lateral force by pushing 30% downward and 70% toward the rear.
3. 擠(Ji): Issue Jin with the back of the hands pushing the opponent forward
4. 按(An): Issue Jin with the waist with the aid of the arms pushing the opponent forward.
5. 採(Cai): Issue Jin with the fingers by holding the wrist and the elbow of the opponent
6. 列(Lie): Issue Jin with both upper arms by pushing the opposing force upward or downward.
7. 肘(Zhou): Issue Jin with the elbow to strike the torso of the opponent
8. 靠(Kao): Issue Jin with the shoulder, chest or back

In addition:
發勁(Fajin) To issue jin with any method of the above
聽勁(ting jin or listening jin: to feel the jin of the opponent by contact.
懂勁(dong jin or understanding jin): understanding one's own level of jin, in order, to feel the jin of the opponent.