Thanks for sharing your perspectives as a musician,
I do need all the musical advice I can procure.
<<Speaking as a musician and more humbly as a learner of tai chi, from a purely musical point of view any musical system from any culture will have it's own unique system of understanding, logic and formulas inherent in it.
The traditional western system has the chromatic 12 note scale, the major and minor scales of 7 notes and so on.Asian scales tend to have scales of varying degrees, ranging from 4 or 5 notes, the Indian system which can have an ascending scale of say 8 notes is entirely different to the related descending scale of say 10 notes.
Then there is the actual notes themselves which need to be taken into consideration. You might notice that some music from cultures other than ones own might sound a bit 'off'. And you might sometimes attribute this to what seems like a badly tuned instrument or a singer who isn't singing quite in tune. However 'tuning' is culture specific. What sounds right and good it seems is culture specific. If you explore the mathematics of sound waves themselves of notes taken from differing cultures' music you will often find a vast difference.For example the number of vibrations per second of the note 'A' from one culture might be very different or a little different or not different at all to the note 'A' from another culture..>>Lodro
<<And then there is the system of musical creation which once again varies magnificently from culture to culture. For example Western musical creation tends (or tended) to, amongst other things, base itself upon the 'circle of 5ths'. For example A B C D E F G. This is the A minor scale. The circle of 5ths involves imagining this series of notes being repeated over and over. Count from A 5 notes (including A), you get to E. Count 5 from E, you get to B. 5 from B, you get to F. 5 from F, you get to C. 5 from C, you get to G. 5 from G, you get to D. 5 from D and you're back to A again. Chords built upon these notes in that order will in fact create music that a western person will immediately relate to..>>Lodro
I can really appreciate what your saying,
and will most certainly have to weave those points,
into the tapestry which has become this project, somehow.
There is much to consider...
...I am not endeavoring to create nice music...rather I would like to state, in sounds, the energies that play out within the form...regardless of its phonetic appeal...I would be most pleased to uncover the vibrations and display them in music, just to be able to hear what it would sound like...
<<In the case of this topic it might be more useful and satisfying to take an indepth look into chinese musical systems and then attempt to extrapolate something from that>>Lodro
I hear what you are saying...But am limited in my resources...
I am barely qualified in the western realms of music,
and so am forced to begin with what I have, really,
or else lose it all to abstract ponderation.
What you say is very important and will have to become,
a great focus eventually, if one wished to create a piece,
even remotely nearing an authentic rendering...I agree.
As I stated in an earlier post, my ideal would be to uncover an authentic translation, somehow...But now realize I shall have to, at least begin, with alot of interpretation...to even be capable of fathoming an attempt.
The curve unto the straight.
Like practicing Tai~Chi...brings understanding to theory of Tai~Chi, getting these things out of mind and down on paper is quite helpful to progress, even if it's scrapped later.
The rough~draft will be very, very rough, indeed...smiles...Then there will be everything to correct afterwards, but still it will be easier for me to address it this way, I think.
And so I may fidget in western tune, set a score like this and then refine /translate into Chinese thought later...???
Maybe the western score will sound terrible in western, but once the same ideals are applied in Chinese music may sound harmonious, I do see your caveats, your logic.
But simply see no other way, myself of acheiving this as such, presently.
I invite you to critique the path if you feel there is a reason why this would not work out. I am limited in my knowledge of the fields involved, but am fascinated by the endeavor and motivated to seek its fruition...So here goes nothing...smiles.
<<I guess what I'm getting at is that it is all very well to look purely at the mathematics of sound and then allocate a sound to a number, but you will not necessarily have achieved anything musically coherent or contiguous (is that a word?) with that particular activity or way of life..Of course you could take a purely scientific and mathematical approach, however Tai Chi appears to be unique to china in its origin and came from a certain way of thinking and being which once again is unique. I would think that tai chi and traditional chinese music would have more in common than tai chi and pure mathematics. But I may be wrong>>Lodro
Oh, I'm not sure at all, whether it will turn out coherent or chaotic, I will be satisfied simply with the acheivement of a full attempt, which must, of course, eventually revolve around the origins directly~certainly, thanks for bringing those points to my attention.
While looking at mathematical aspects~this idea was derived from the Tai~Chi,
rather than the basic number/mathematical systems...The Yi~Chings binary systems...its connections with the bagua and its eight energies...The Fuxi square in animation which demonstrated the physical movements of hexigrams was something of a spark...Binary systems are based upon the "Tai~Chi"...therefore the mathematical links interest me...
The footwork portions I started, are, at the least, based in Chinese culture...
I surely shall have to explore many venues to complete an educated research.
I am presently scoring chords and intuiting organization for the foundations from the Wuxing/Wubu correlations mentioned in posts earlier...derived from some recent Chinese medical research.
Anyways...All this IS hypothetical matter. Fascinating, yet fictional, until it should be proven at all otherwise.
Thanks for all of your valuable thoughts.