<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by clarkleroy:
<B> First - And, a good question. Not sure except few in the west have seen the full text. The essence of the critique was not the names of the gestures, rather, it was using nontcc tactics. Even when Qu tried to rebuttal, he did not provide any detail except to describe some general, yet very interesting, things in during those days.
Re the repititions within the form - no, it had nothing to do with YCF's weight. Neither did the large frame that many here (west) attribute to his size. Body size had nothing to do with it. In his 1948 book, "TCC Explained", Tung described Master Yang Chengfu's set as being good for beginners. Interesting stuff
Recently an older kf bro met Jasmine Tung & had a nice visit discussing some interesting material.
The current family mostly uses 3 reps. FZW 5. Tung 3. It matters not, as you know, at least Fu & Tung advised, as long as one is consistent in using 3 or 5 or 7 or ... throughout the set. I have a personal video of YZD using 5 at a demo at the u in Xi'an during the mid 1980's at the local tcc club. He demo'd along with FSY then & there - their large sets, sword, saber, & ph. The mattress on the wall was definitely needed. The club's best p.h. fellow was tossed around like water thrown from a fan.
As you know re the wardoff, it actually is implied throughout, same w/lu,lie, peng, etc., everywhere, always.
I am well aware of the implication of ward-off applications throughout the whole frame but here I get the feeling LYX was commenting on CMC's detailed description of application of the embrace/leopard movement.
Re the repetitions, it wasn't my critique on YCF, it was just a thought that he added them because of shorter foot stances as he got older. Another "obvious" (and popular) matter would be that he eliminated fajins from his father's frame for the same reasons.
Again, note the "" around obvious.