<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by CheeFattTaichi:
<B> If you are talking about self-defence using Taiji principles the answer is definitely `yes'. Push hands is to acquire 2 very important skills in taiji fighting. First, ting jin (hearing) and tung jin (understand jin). This ability enable taiji expert to know and control his opponent effortlessly. Secondly, it trained taiji players to use the whole body strength, qi and yi (know his own strength) and know how to manipulate and neautralized opponent's strength (explore weakness), hence, enable him to use softness against hardness.
Taiji fighting strategy requires taiji players to be able to totally control and defeat the enermy at the moment of first contact. This high skills require very good tung jin and ability to stick and adhere (lien jin). Almost all Taiji power and techniques are build on the foundation of the ability to `sung' (loose) and tung jin (understand) which can only be acquired from push hands. So push hands is definitely a very important part of taiji fighting trainings.
I feal that ting jin & tung jin are the basic skills that one should obtain from push hands.
after practicing taijiquan i can say, during free fighting (w/friends) i am starting to look for those things (spacificly ting jin & tung jin). But the ability to control the opponent has been there before push hands. However contole of ones self is mutch harder to attain.
this looseness you speak of (if it means relaxation in combat) comes from combat practice
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