I understand and agree with what Michael said, the goal is to improve yourself mentally and physically. One does work without the other. It is not working less, but actually patience that is the key. You see if you try to rush something, you will most probably be doing it more, but neglecting the other more important aspects. As they say Martial Arts without the mind control is just a street brawl. We are trying to achieve a higher form and thinking simply that hard training is going to get us there is missing the point of the true Martial way. Time is important, but student's mindset has to be in the form of patience, not instant reward.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by psalchemist:
Sorry again if I misinterpreted your words...I obviously don't quite understand what is trying to be conveyed.
The statement above, for me, literally states that working harder, working more, is not as productive as working less...But since I don't find this very logical, I must assume that your view of the 'literal' meaning must be the correct one.
I don't understand the meaning of the quote you supplied in comparison with what I posted...
But as I said it must be my deficiency in comprehending the example you provided.
What I was trying to convey in my previous posting, was simply that the different areas of Taijiquan activity are superimposed, something like mathematics.
First one learns 'barehand solo' form to learn internal,self.
Then one progresses to push hands with an opponent to learn to work with external input,and opponent(s).
Then one can move along to extending the reach of the body with a weapon, solo,internally,
Then on to working externally, with a weapon and opponent(s).
Work ethic or quantity did not really cross my mind there, I am only really speaking of the order of instruction,order of learning.
The student in the example, given as such, refers to working more often, working harder,(to me this refers to practicing) not necessarily that he is impatient to learn more techniques, weapons etc. and so find the difficulty in comparison within.
I am at a loss to compare the two subjects...but as I said it is probably that I have taken the example too literally, and there are perhaps other implications...
I would really appreciate your perspective in more detail,
You were saying something about the mind or body 'catching up'...?
What I understand is that one can only APPLY a limited amount of new mental education, theory to practice in the physical sense...and then one must practice these theories until the body has become accustomed to the concept. A process which requires time and application.
Surely it is safe, however, to accumulate theoretical knowledge even if it can not be put into action effectively at the time of absorption.
I see no real danger in overloading the mind...but I can see that actually applying what is being accumulated mentally would then require years of hard work and diligent practice.
Every student is different though, perhaps there is the danger for some of becoming discouraged at seeing the amount of work ahead...Personally I find it encouraging to see that I will NOT run out of things to learn and accomplish in Taijiquan.