<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Yuri_Snisarenko:
<B>Well, my approach is probably a bit different from yours. The form (each technique, each 8 jins) is what gives us a way to express vectors of jin, so the form (and thats why the shape to some extent) is one part of the equation to me. Fu laoshi one day said to me that he often sees in parks people doing pushhands with a fault of not training clear expression of appropriate jin for each "step" of movement. As I see it - they are too much into reacting, reflecting and being soft, forgetting that tuishou (first of all IMHO) is the way to train what we practice in form but in the pair. Each movement is an expression and use of certain jin - in similar way as in the form. Additionally we can train it in deferent modes, including fajin mode where the initiative (in certain circumstances) may come from us not from an opponent.
What is fajin for me? Since my level is not high - to me it's just sending energy to point of contact which is directly related to jindian. Jindian in Liu (as I see it) is closer to the base of the palm -
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(from Fu Zhongwen's book)
Here is a vidio of Fu laoshi doing it in fajin mode:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToUyWr809Cg
[This message has been edited by Yuri_Snisarenko (edited November 28, 2009).]</B></font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
The video was great but I have never experiened that type of fajing in any encounter relating to or coming from any Yang style practitioner.
I have been shown the mechanics of the push per initial post (video), have experienced the pushing part from my teacher's uncle and it is still somewhat elusive for me.
My experience with an Western practitioner (regardless of the art) was that we both ended up in a sumo type engagement!
Excellent video, nontheless!